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Post by My Little Rockabilly Kat Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:47 pm

Im interested in health, i want to share my findings with you guys, i do hope you follow, you don't know what you have lost in life when you have a nagging health complaint. prevantative medicine is better than cure..




Honey and cider vinegar as a remedy has been made well known and somewhat well respected by D.C. Jarvis, a Vermont medical doctor of considerable experience. His book, Folk Medicine (1958), fully discusses why and how to prepare and use this obviously harmless self-treatment. Essentially, a tablespoon or two of each is dissolved in a glass of water and taken several times daily as needed. White (distilled) vinegar is not recommended, by the way. Dr. Jarvis states that numerous common ailments, including colds, infections, rheumatism and arthritis may be relieved, and even cured with this simple treatment.
One rationale for the vinegar and honey regimen is that a person's blood stream tends toward becoming alkaline through a modern diet of fats, starches and de-vitalized processed foods (here we go again, right?). Dr. Jarvis found that the acidity of cider vinegar, although weak, is enough to correct this excess alkalinity, and that a slightly acidic bloodstream prevents and fights infection. Since vinegar solution in a tea-kettle dissolves mineral build-up, Dr. Jarvis also suspected that calcium deposits in the joints might also be dissolved by a slightly acidic bloodstream. He experimentally proved both of these theories with patients of his, after first studying cows.

"Milk fever" in cows is usually treated with calcium injections by the veterinarian. A critically ill cow generally then makes an immediate recovery and is often on her feet again in minutes. Dr. Jarvis reasoned that vinegar must be dissolving calcium into the bloodstream, for when he gave cows with milk fever some vinegar, they too recovered immediately. This lent support to his premise that calcium deposits could be dissolved from the joints of the body in arthritic persons.

By observing cows out at pasture, Dr. Jarvis saw that they preferred eating the most acidic of the plants and grasses. He also noted that the modern diet of a high-producing dairy cow under intensive milking lacks these acidic greens and is high in alkaline-producing grains. At the same time, these heavy milkers are prone to mastitis, an infection of the udder. Dr. Jarvis felt that their alkaline diet facilitated infection, so he gave cows a few ounces of cider vinegar daily in their feed. The cows so treated failed to develop mastitis. This lends support to the belief that vinegar is anti-infective.

Honey added to the vinegar naturally makes the mixture more drinkable for people. Honey also contains subtle amounts of energies and minerals just beginning to be noticed, let alone fully understood. Curative powers of honey were known about in ancient civilizations, and naturopathic doctors recommend it still. It is what is not known about honey that is probably of greatest medicinal value.

As a sweetener, honey is more than just the sum of its sugars. Traditional nutritional authorities say that sugar is sugar, and that the source or state of it doesn't matter nutritionally. You may choose to believe that or not. I think that there is quite a significant difference in life-supporting qualities between processed white sugar and dark, raw honey. The darker, cloudier, and less filtered the honey, the better. Light, crystal-clear, pasteurized honey is lacking the trace factors that nature had the bees put into the comb.

Honey is by nature pure; why on earth anyone would pasteurize it is beyond me. Heat does in fact destroy valuable enzymes in the raw honey. In addition, bacteria can grow on the surface moisture left under the cap of processed honey as a result of heating and condensation. Raw honey actually contains natural antibiotics. So eat the honey the way the bees made it; the very best way is comb and all. (It's delicious and makes a great sandwich spread. Honey in the comb doesn't leak through your bread as much.)

Honey has a self-limiting effect on the appetite. A person who could eat a one-pound chocolate bar with ease might have great difficulty eating a quarter-cup of honey all at once. Try it on your kids next time they are pestering for candy: give them a teaspoon or two of honey. Dates and raisins work the same way. Who do you know that can eat a couple of handfuls of dates right down? Nature has put more into many foods than we fully realize.
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Post by Drea Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:42 pm

Is that saying a few teaspoons of honey will satiate my cravings for sweet food? Mind you I eat a lot of honey as it is! I don't know if it's raw though.

I've also heard apple cider vinegar is extremely good for you.

Another note, unpasteurized milk! I remember old ladies telling me that the milk they got straight from the cow never really went off. Can you imagine the amount of awesome antibodies unpasteurized milk must have in it for the little calves? I wish I could try the organic milk for myself but they don't make it lactose free :\ I need lactase tablets!!!

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Post by leweydafly Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:11 am

You have to know that there are some bad side effects from taking that stuff and it can seriously interfere with other prescription drugs due to the acidity.

Also interesting is the fact that the author, D.C. Jarvis died from chronic kidney infection, coupled with cerebral thrombosis and arteriosclerosis, so weather the honey and cider is good for you is still up in the air.

Alot of so called "self help" doctors use a lot of words like "may" and "can" to describe the effects of whatever they are selling. Most of it is old wives tales and doesnt really work.

Always do your research before doing anything based on an "old world" recipe, especially if you take any prescription drugs.

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Post by The Zed Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:44 am

Another "Old World" Remedy is Olive Leaf Extract, Taken once a day by the tablespoon will guard against Colds, Flu, Rhumetism, and Nausea. I have friends that have been taking this for many years and if you saw them, I don't think you could guess their ages. I have one customer thats 96 and stills drives, is fully active and a smart arse, chases younger women and still dosen't have a wrinkle on his face. He does have beautiful silver hair though! I don't fully understand what it does for you but the results speak for themselves. In my shop I see alot of older ladies and gents that seek out the weird and wonderful ingredients to make all kind of stuff that we have forgotten or been homogenised into thinking there is a better way. Most of the time it costs us alot more money and time when the simple things have been held in good sted for generations.
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Post by mudflap Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:51 am

yes and in the old world they used to use sheeps intestines as propolactics, jsut casue its old world doesnt meen its good
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Post by leweydafly Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:48 pm

The Zed wrote:In my shop I see alot of older ladies and gents that seek out the weird and wonderful ingredients to make all kind of stuff that we have forgotten or been homogenised into thinking there is a better way.
Cheers The Zed................

What sort of shop do you have Zed??

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Post by My Little Rockabilly Kat Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:06 pm

my whole fact is.
pescription drugs are not needed if people keep themselves toxic free, have a well balanced diet, stay away from preservatives, flavours and somethings called
FLOURIDE, CORN STARCH, PRESERVATIVE 220, MSG.


anti =dead
pro = life
antibiotic
probiotic
its all in the name

oh and people wonder why they suffer from anxiety and depression
when really, there life is pretty good.
look after yourself.

i blame the government, is the same in every country.

what do i take everyday
olive leaf -
paw paw leaf extract as well as eating a few paw paws a week.
vitamin b,iron
good quality omega 3,6,9 not the bargain 1000 bulk packs for ex amount $ out the front of chemists. i use MELROSE..dirty fish free
i watched a programme on where most companys source the oil for the tablets.
usually..from rotten sewers in dirty countries. cheap easy and if a chemist sells it its bad for you.

Drea, try rice milk it tastes the same
and they do make organic lactose free milk. i have it.

i was just trying to put some stuff i have come across out there
doesn't mean you have to follow it, western medicine is killing more people than saving them
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Post by Ebony Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:03 pm

My Little Rockabilly wrote:Im interested in health, i want to share my findings with you guys, i do hope you follow, you don't know what you have lost in life when you have a nagging health complaint. prevantative medicine is better than cure..


"Milk fever" in cows is usually treated with calcium injections by the veterinarian. A critically ill cow generally then makes an immediate recovery and is often on her feet again in minutes. Dr. Jarvis reasoned that vinegar must be dissolving calcium into the bloodstream, for when he gave cows with milk fever some vinegar, they too recovered immediately.

Lol here we go ex dairy farmer.... Razz

Milk fever is Hypocalcemia which is basically yes low calcium in the bloodstream, in cows which you need a mix of phosphate and magnesium, most have some form of dextrose as well.

when they have this you have to restrict the green feed (grass) lol and put them on hay, which will make the blood more acidic. BUT will draw the calcium from bones not the intestine.

so i figure unless I was a Jersey and or lactating I wouldn't be eating hay all the time otherwise i'd end up a crippled old cow with osteo and atrthritis.

bwahahaha i didn't even get to the Mastitis part. Mastitis has squat to do with diet, whether it be cause or prevention. Its purely that babies are grubby little monsters that cause bacterial infections which blocks your milk ducts. Cows - antibiotics which turns the milk a lovely shade of blue. Mummy's - cabbage leaf lined bra works majority of the time! if gets really really bad antibiotics is a last resort.

But yeah as Mick said go easy on the old world stuff, we've come a long way in 50 years. I'd be prone to more study on current findings or old remedies if that makes sense!

Honey not good if your a baby LOL can contract botulism, something about the spores and unable to process them sufficiently.
and I think raw honey can heighten any pollen related allergies too.

I know a woman who spent her whole life from infancy, natural this natural that, nothing ever processed, always fresh. She had a cough went to the docs and lasted a whole 2 months Sad she was riddled with cancer and only 44. I also know a guy who is 102, smokes like a chimney and drinks like a fish and is still driving!

I dont think there is anything without risk.

ooh MSG they label as 621 its taken me years to work out my cause of migranes, but I dont touch anything with 621 anymore and haven't had one since "touch wood"
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Post by Ebony Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:12 pm

Ooh and dont buy 'poo' honey either. A while ago i remember reading somewhere alot of the imported junk contains dangerous additives.

As a rule i dont buy 'poo' food. LOL (except for coffee!) but i dont feed that to the kids LOL
fresh vegies only from australia, imported stuff has ridiculous amounts of E.coli. same as frozen vegies. aussie and new zealand is the go. Logans farm? some McCains I think.
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Post by The Zed Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:19 am

Mick, I have a Continental Deli, Wholesale, Retail, Manufacture, Export, Foodservice! Celebrating our 75th Year this year. 3rd generation
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Post by Drea Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:54 am

Ugh yeah, the HEINZ frozen broccoli comes from China where they fertilize the plants with HUMAN MANURE!!! DISGUSTING. No wonder there is so much risk of E.coli. Who knows how many diseases could be passed on. *retches*

So what is this olive lead extract and where do you get it and what are it's benefits.

I know whenever I feel a cold coming on I take garlic, horseradish and vitamin C. I think it works really well and drives off a cold.

Now kat, where can I get some of this organic lactose free milk?
I don't think rice milk tastes the same. It tastes like liquefied cardboard.

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Post by mudflap Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:12 am

We get our fruit and veg from the local market garden barn door, he sells all his own produce and buys the rest of his stock from Flemington when he takes his stock ot market, its truck loads fresher than the crap at the super markets and chain green grousers and tastes heaps better as a result (+ its A LOT Cheaper)

I think if your crook go to the doctor if you need anti biotics take them, dont jsut take them for shits and giggels but theres no sents being crook for no good reason, theres some old stuff that is simple easy and works like gargeling with salt water for a sowre throat os steam to ease congestion, but thats not to say all old remadys are great, butter on burns as an example
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Post by The Zed Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:22 am

Drea, Olive leaf extract is available at all good health food shops. With saying that, I sell it at my shop in Woolloongabba. I can provide you with all the scientific tests and paperwork to go with it. There is other products I sell that have benefits aswell, Like Blueberry juice from Georgia, Pumpkinseed oil from Austria, Manuka Honey from NZ, Quinoa from Bolivia, Organic Soft drinks from Germany. Oh! Organic Tahini From Australia, You can make milk from this also. Come have a look and see what takes ya fancy. Don't look at the Baclava, Kourambides, Finiki, Glace Fruit, Turkish delight, Olives, Pasta, Cheese, Goats fetta, Sheep Fetta, You name it, I probably got it.
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Post by Ebony Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:25 am

I'm with you mudflap, if doc says you need it, i'd be taking it.

I have headaches every day god i'd be lost without my panadol LOL
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Post by My Little Rockabilly Kat Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:40 am

headaches- physio. chiropractors suck arse, its usually the nerves in the back of your neck causing headaches, especially after being in the same position on sayyy a computer?

Ohhh my your shop sounds delightful!
i loveeee Quinoa- if you dont know what it is, try it..its like puffy fluffy rice light!!
Olive leaf is for your immune system, just google it
Manuka honey! i must come visit your shop someday

organic lactose free milk- health food store
i know mum gets it from coles
did you shake the rice milk? its watery if you don't
almond milk is also nice, soy is disgusting and bad for you
not all health stuff is good for you.
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Post by Ebony Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:22 am

lol no more like altercation with a truck at 100km and a backwards vertebra Wink
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Post by Drea Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:54 am

At Coles huh? Well I'll have to go have a look. Coles seems to have a much bigger range that Woolies. And why is soy milk bad? Almond milk sounds interesting. But I'm hoping it doesn't taste anything like marzipan *gags*

Now if I'm ever in Woolongong I'll have to suss this store out.

Also ebony, do you make sure you drink a full glass of water and wait 10 minutes before taking a Panadol? My sister and I used this test to gauge whether we really need a paracetamol or not Smile Oh and you should be using Herron instead! It's an Australian company.

By the way Kat, are you aware of the problems of mites that bees around the world have? Apparently australia is the only country that doesn't have them. New Zealand got infested with them a few years ago somehow. But yeah if they don't find a way to get rid of these mites, the bee populations of the world will dwindle, nothing will get pollinated and we'll face world hunger + food shortages. They have to ship out crates of mite free Australian bees to the almond fields in America to help pollinate the almond blossoms in order for all the almonds to develop. So Australia is the only country in the world that doesn't need to use mite pesticide on their bees!!

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Post by My Little Rockabilly Kat Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:50 am

interesting
i love all this stuff
soy milk..ehhhh its gross and soy beans arent that good for you
coles has a huge range of natural stuff
nice soaps and shampoo
good thing about natural shampoos you dont have to wash your hair near as much..no chemicals on your body, cheap products $6.00 a bottle, use less shampoo..good for the environment and going down ya drain
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Post by Drea Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:11 am

Yeah they clean you're hair but that's about it. But that's what I'm told about any supermarket shampoo. Laura tells me KMS is the go for someone with frizzy hair like mine.

I love all the eco friendly dish washing liquids, laundry detergents, soaps, fabric softeners and such. When I build a house it's going to have a grey water tank hooked up and I will be able to water the garden with it Smile Just my flowers and such though. I wouldn't go watering the vege garden with it.

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Post by hewey Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:18 am

Drea wrote:
I love all the eco friendly dish washing liquids, laundry detergents, soaps, fabric softeners and such. When I build a house it's going to have a grey water tank hooked up and I will be able to water the garden with it Smile Just my flowers and such though. I wouldn't go watering the vege garden with it.

Cool Very Happy You'll find the legislation dictates that grey water needs to be used for only sub-surface irrigation, and they're plenty of rules and regs on how the system needs to be set up Suspect and nah, not on the veggies Shocked Razz Razz Growing your own veggies is a great idea, my veggies suffer from neglect though Embarassed Embarassed
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Post by mudflap Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:30 am

the only troubel I find with the eco frendly Laundery detergent is well it doesnt work on "work" gear, its fine on most things but the stuff I wear in the shed.

It needs proper enviromentely un sound stuff
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Post by Drea Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:54 am

mudflap wrote:the only troubel I find with the eco frendly Laundery detergent is well it doesnt work on "work" gear, its fine on most things but the stuff I wear in the shed.

It needs proper enviromentely un sound stuff

Hurricane planet green has wash clean many car related grease stains.
But you do get the tougher ones. My boy has this miracle spray that gets out ANY grease/oil/what have you stains. It's AWESOME. I must find out what is it.

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Post by mudflap Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:35 pm

CT18 works a treat Very Happy
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Post by Lolly Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:10 am

mudflap wrote:the only troubel I find with the eco frendly Laundery detergent is well it doesnt work on "work" gear, its fine on most things but the stuff I wear in the shed.

It needs proper enviromentely un sound stuff

Try adding eucalyptus oil to the soaking water. Used to get the heavy duty grease out from my ex's king Gees a treat Very Happy Smells kind of nice too!

Or what about trying that orange-skin stuff that is used to dissolve grease? My mechanics use it to clean their hands. Idea
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Post by The Zed Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:48 am

Drea, Its Woolloongabba!!! Not woollongong!! You know where they play cricket and AFL in Brisbane!!!
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