What car fits what event?

DeadSled wrote:Yeah but regardless of new cars being more reliable (Apparently.. my mates with new cars have more trouble than the old cars..) how can you possibly try and tell me that old cars cant be used as daily cars? They were fine 30 - 50 years ago so as long as they are maintained whats stopping them from being fine now?

I've driven my HJ over the border numerous times, i've driven it 40mins each way to Salisbury 5 days a week for a month when i went to tafe.. so the whole mentality of an old car not being usable as a daily car is a crock of shit. You build it to be driven daily and it'll be able to be driven daily.

You gotta remember also.. old cars weren't made just so people 50 years later could put them up on a pedestal. They were created to be driven.. so to anyone with an old car who prefers to keep it in the shed as opposed to driving the thing.. quit being a pussy and use it for what it was intended for.

i dont think anyone has said you "cant" use an old car as a daily driver, they are just making the point that a new car with all the mod cons is always going to be more comfortable and economic to drive.

Ive always had old cars, the only luxury i have in the ute is power steering. I drive it daily but had to make a fair few upgrades from standard to make it reliable, economical and make it perform up to scratch with other cars on the road.

As for calling people with old cars kept in a shed, pussies...... i dare you to come down here to melbourne and make that statement at a show. im pretty shure youd have someones foot clear up your ass quick smart.

Cheers

Mick

I haven't done anything to mine to make it more reliable. Just as it came off the factory except for the power steering the old fella before me had put in.

One thing i can't stand is when people have nice old cars and they get driven twice a year or whatever.. that is crap.. why bother having it then? Same with the people who hoard a shitload of cars and leave them to rot in a paddock and refuse to fix them. Its bs.

I'm all for the whole "its theirs they can do what they want with it" but to me its pretty weak to try and find an excuse as to why it can't be driven more than those few times a year.

If your gona have a perfectly good old car.. use it for what it was designed to do or let someone else enjoy it instead.

Oh and as for someones foot being up my ass.. i doubt it because i'd be the one who drove my old car there, while puttin shit on the person who has the nice old car yet turned up in a Toyota instead.

Nick.read what my dad said
'because he dosent want it to get hurt'
your holden won't be touched..you have nothing to worry about
30 40 50 years ago all the cars looked the same
a classic car stands out big time these days and people with no respect and who are jealous will hurt it
i highly doubt you'd want a trolley rammed up the side of your holden..especially your hot rod
you will understand when yours are built..they are your pride and joy, imagine having it wrecked!

Yeah i know that. I'm not referring to your Dad, more the general population.

Nice paint or not, they WERE designed to be driven. Just means you have to have selective parking sometimes. I've seen people with old cars park them diagonally in two parks or with the white line down the middle of the car so peoples doors won't hit em. Smart thinking i reckon.

My Chev will have a $50 at most paint job, i'm really not fussed if people egg / bottle / dent it

you would all have to agree
nick has very different opinons..right

Haha Kat.. understatement..

Yes they were designed to be driven daily... FIFTY YEARS AGO!!.. Go ahead, drive your car daily.. we aren't saying you shouldn't and if you've got the money to keep it running well then go ahead (to say that it costs hardly nothing to get an old car to that standard is a crock of shit, unless you have the mechanical skills yourself) - we're just saying it's more sensible to drive a more modern car for those to and from work trips.. I mean who wants to be driving an old car stuck in traffic.. And to say take up two parking spaces and you'll be sweet is a joke, you're just asking for someone to key your car if you do that..

DeadSled wrote:I haven't done anything to mine to make it more reliable. Just as it came off the factory except for the power steering the old fella before me had put in.

One thing i can't stand is when people have nice old cars and they get driven twice a year or whatever.. that is crap.. why bother having it then? Same with the people who hoard a shitload of cars and leave them to rot in a paddock and refuse to fix them. Its bs.

I'm all for the whole "its theirs they can do what they want with it" but to me its pretty weak to try and find an excuse as to why it can't be driven more than those few times a year.

If your gona have a perfectly good old car.. use it for what it was designed to do or let someone else enjoy it instead.

Oh and as for someones foot being up my ass.. i doubt it because i'd be the one who drove my old car there, while puttin shit on the person who has the nice old car yet turned up in a Toyota instead.

if you are enough of an idiot to give people shit becase they have towed they're nice car to a show then you deserve every foot in the place up your arse
i will admit, i don't like to see a car get done up to never be driven and i would never do it myself, but it is their car and they have a right to do with it what they want, personally i cant blame some of them when they spend hundreds of thousnds of dollars doing the car up, if i spent that much money on a car id never want to take it anywhere for fear of it being wrecked by some dickhead. theres too many idiots out there, the kindof people that feel its necessary to attempt to do drifting around a set of traffic lights when its just been raining, idiots who get in their cars blind drunk or stoned, and all the bloody rest of them, the fact of the matter is i will never spend hundreds of thousands of dollars doing up a car, but what i do spend i stil wont want to take it to a shopping centre and have some careless joe public slam their bloody door into mine or scrape their bumper right up the side
these people dont take their cars out because they want to keep them, to preserve them, they are getting rarer and rarer by the day
whether you drive the car to a show or pull it there on a trailer it doesnt change the effort that has gone into making it, the care and attention to detail that has been taken, each person enjoys their car their own way, it is very singleminded and short sighted to think that because you might drive yours there makes you better
the argument that you drive an old car every day is all well and good, but whether you want to admit it or not you would spend less money with a small 4 cyl car, and to say oh old cars arent that expensive cos you got one cheap, yeah great, but not everyone's dream car is a hz kingswood (or whatever model it is), i drive a 79 escort every day, which is an old car by todays standards, but its far from being my dream car, fact is i can't afford to buy my dream car at the moment so i just have to make do with enjoying my lifestyle without one
i might also remind you that the hotrod that mark from voodoo tattoo drives around daily is runnng a late model LS1 v8, complete with electronic engine management, basically as it came out of the comodore he took it from, it also runs the gearbox and independant rear from the same car, its basically and old car wrapping on a new car running gear, which he did so to make it a reliable every day driver
as the pinstriping assassin said, it aint about having a car its about having the vibe,
there are plenty of great people getting around the shows that dont have old cars, and might not know a thing about them,and whether they intend to get one or not they're still nice people and they ave just as much right to be there and enjoy the lifestyle as anyone with a car
there are also plenty of dickheads whom you would never want to know that do have old cars, it doesnt matter how cool their car is, how much they know about it, how often they drive it, they're dickheads and probably always will be
i personally dont have any respect for people who give other people shit about their cars, i dont mind a bit of fun every now and then - the age old ford vs gm argument will always be there- so long as it doesnt get out of hand, however just picking on things about peoples cars that you dont like and telling them to their face is just plain wrong, there's plenty of cars out there that i dont like and i if i owned them i would do them differently but i would never tell the owners that or put them down for it, cos no matter how much i dislike it, it is their car and they are doing what they like with it they have put their heart and soul into building their car the way they like it, i'm never gunna put someone down for that
everyone is entitled to their own likes an dislikes, not everyone is gunna like my cars but i will and i will do them the way i like them, after all you build a car for yourself and for the love of cars, not for other peoples attention, if you do build it just for other peoples attention you're doing it for all the wrong reasons

The problem with driving a classic daily is it gets driven into the ground. I drove my '72 bug as a daily for 8 years, the last two I was doing 500km a week in commuting alone I did the basic service work on it, and it also got regular services at a VW specialist. But in the end the bulk kms and being outside all the time just wore it down, both physically and mechanically. Ive bought a modern daily with power steer and air con and a stereo, and got a nice ol wagon to play with, and I havent looked back. Im probably just getting soft in my old age though

Kid Setzer wrote:Haha Kat.. understatement..

Yes they were designed to be driven daily... FIFTY YEARS AGO!!.. Go ahead, drive your car daily.. we aren't saying you shouldn't and if you've got the money to keep it running well then go ahead (to say that it costs hardly nothing to get an old car to that standard is a crock of shit, unless you have the mechanical skills yourself) - we're just saying it's more sensible to drive a more modern car for those to and from work trips.. I mean who wants to be driving an old car stuck in traffic.. And to say take up two parking spaces and you'll be sweet is a joke, you're just asking for someone to key your car if you do that..

So what if they were designed to be driven daily 50 years ago? Nothing changed except they got older, and the roads got better. Keep it mechanically good or replace your fucked out suspension driveline ect components with some new rubbers / bushes ect.. and your good to go. Their old cars.. they aren't fuckin rocket science.

Secondly who wants to drive old cars daily? Well me for one, and i know numerous others who also drive theirs daily to and from work.. in peak hour traffic.. on the weekends.. from Brisbane to the City or Gold Coast and back every week.

It isn't some utterly unrealistic idea, but then i have yet to see an old car owned by half of the girls on here. If i recall correctly Ms. Kid Setzer.. don't you drive an Excel? Do you have at least ONE old car of your own to base your apparent facts on? Keep in mind i have 3 and one that used to be mine, now my Brothers.

Dave,

I realise that Marks Pickup has a Commodore driveline, but its STILL got a 1935 or whatever Ford Cab on it and it still gets driven daily. Driveline or not, that old body is still out there in the sun or rain infront of the shop day in day out.

It really isn't hard to keep an old car reliable.. theres sweet fuck all to them and they are as simple as can be.

Maybe i'm just a true oldschooler, but i have more respect for the people that drive their cars than for the ones that don't bring them out, or trailer them to an event. Fair enough if it broke down on the way because it happens to everyone.. but if they loaded it up (and if they pushed it onto the trailer thats even worse..) and drove there and pushed or reversed it off.. i have no respect for them trying to tell others that they are true oldschoolers / Hot Rodders.

Hey Hewey.. yeah mate.. Your gettin soft

Im sorry but...are you serious nick
a true old schooler?
wasn't it you that asked me and dave to give you a makeover 'rockabilly' style so you could pick up chicks and get attention fashion wise so it would gel in with your rods? obviously you haven't read anything that people have said.. these people are real old school..they care for their rides..in your eyes if a car is good enough for a shagging wagon its ace. a car and fashion should not change a girls opinion if they like you or not..hopefully this new sheila isnt like that..i know she likes your holden...your set..treat her well..she'll love you long time...why don't you tell everyone what your definition of 'cruisin' is..
don't drive them for all the wrong reasons..attention..girls..


oh dear ..nick your hilarious you make me laugh
you wouldn't last 2 seconds if you were saying all this face to face..
try it..twilight rod show in brisbane..i will make sure some awesome rodders are their to hear it all
to everyone who has met nick, you will understand what he is like..dont take it all to heart

Hey.. last i checked it was you tellin me if i dressed more like you guys i'd pick up chicks.. not the other way around.

And yeah.. fuckin oath i'm serious. Lets see.. I love old cars, I have four of the things here.. i drive them 365 days a year day night rain and shine.. i hang out with other mates who also have them.. i refuse to give in to modern cars like the rest of the population seems to.. I have a bullshit amount of car parts around everywhere.. Yeah.. i'd consider myself a true oldschool car guy.

I love how you try and put shit on me because me and my mates go cruising.. to apparently pick up chicks. Have you ever actually read up on any form of old car history? Oh wait.. Its been going on since the fuckin 50's. Not to mention we get a group of us and go out to various cruise in nights (Harrys Diner, Munchies ect) so what we're doin is NOT anything different than how its been going on for the last near 60 years.

Last i checked.. cruising was nothing more than driving around in your old car, not necessarily going anywhere though.. just to enjoy drivin it. Oh but you wouldn't know.. you always got chauffered around didn't you?

As for driving old cars daily.. well maybe no one else here apart from a select few are tough enough to do it, but you will never see me driving a new car unless its someone elses.. and even then it won't be daily.

DeadSled wrote:Hey.. last i checked it was you tellin me if i dressed more like you guys i'd pick up chicks.. not the other way around.

And yeah.. fuckin oath i'm serious. Lets see.. I love old cars, I have four of the things here.. i drive them 365 days a year day night rain and shine.. i hang out with other mates who also have them.. i refuse to give in to modern cars like the rest of the population seems to.. I have a bullshit amount of car parts around everywhere.. Yeah.. i'd consider myself a true oldschool car guy.

I love how you try and put shit on me because me and my mates go cruising.. to apparently pick up chicks. Have you ever actually read up on any form of old car history? Oh wait.. Its been going on since the fuckin 50's. Not to mention we get a group of us and go out to various cruise in nights (Harrys Diner, Munchies ect) so what we're doin is NOT anything different than how its been going on for the last near 60 years.

Last i checked.. cruising was nothing more than driving around in your old car, not necessarily going anywhere though.. just to enjoy drivin it. Oh but you wouldn't know.. you always got chauffered around didn't you?

As for driving old cars daily.. well maybe no one else here apart from a select few are tough enough to do it, but you will never see me driving a new car unless its someone elses.. and even then it won't be daily.

How come every web site your on turms into a shit fight with you on the recieving end

I grew up in a family who have driven hotrods as everyday cars all my life. Going to school was great as mums main cars was and still is a steel 41 willys coupe and a 57 chev pickup.
To me it has always been normal to use your cars everyday. My 50 chev sedan has done 100K of hard miles since I got it, now my 51 coupe travells an hour each way everyday to work. The killer for an old car are the carparks, my 68 pontaic that is the also driven most days by my Girlfriend just does not fit very well at the shops. I must admmit to parking miles out of your way or very selective parking. It seems the last 5 years other people just dont give a shit.. I have been sitting in a car when people open doors yours and look at you stupid when you say something. i bought an old Hilux ute for that very reason. Perfect for the shops.

Cant believe I agee with Nick in some small part. An old car maintained will get you anywhere. I have the full use of work cars (HSV's) but I still prefer to drive my Chev for the travelling to and from work. But saying that an Old car is not for everybody, I have spent a lot of time fitting Jag fronts etc to make my chevs drive like new, but for someone to come from a new car into and old one it would be a shock and not everyones cup of tea.

A stock unmodifed car now thats a whole different thing, in todays traffic you need good brakes and be able to take off when needed, and not get hot(having trouble with that bit this morning)

each to there own, and there is no need to ridicule anyone on there choice (Nick )

A HQish holden is not really that old either, it would be wrong if it wasnt reliable

The one thing I forgot is that if its an every day car you need to be prepared for it to recieve some form of wear and tear/ paint marks etc. I know we have a few in our family that dont get used much, mostly cruise nights/rod runs etc.
But the others are always used and clock up a hell of a lot of miles.

You do need to be able to do most of the work yourself to have one as an everyday car in my opinion. Otherwise the cost of paying people to do the work quickly adds up.
Going to finish cutting up a 50 chev now for spares , bloody hot to play with an oxy set

once again nick you have completely missed the point. Theres no point bothering to explain it to you further...its obviously above your understanding level.
my point about marks hotrod was that it is reliable because he has put a late model running gear in it, the body doesnt do shit for making a car reliable...
your own mum said why cant you dress like us, then you came to us and asked if you dressed like us would it help you get chicks, you said it not us...deny it all you like
noone is putting shit on you for cruising, but going out and drifting, doing burnouts in front of peoples houses, making a public nuisance of yourself and hounding girls for their phone numbers when they dont want to give it to you, thats not cruising thats being a dickhead
as for kat getting 'chauffered around' one- a guy does that for his girl, with no complaints, take a look at the classic old skool that you are supposedly so knowledgable in, guys drove the girls around all the time,it was the done thing, and secondly...kat would often drive on her L-plates when she got the opportunity, she drove the chev impala more often than peter did, he can back me up on that
and another thing, kat has bought all her cars on her own, not her parents buying it for her, she pays for all the bits, in her life she has had about 6 cars all of which she bought out of her own pocket, get your stories right before you start spreading shit, last time i saw she didnt claim that she does all the work on them when other people do it for her, at least she is honest
so tell us all nick, when was the last time you actually drove one of your cars? one that you built all by yourself with all your oldskool rodder know-how...?
oh and another thing, whether kid setzer drives an excel or not she is a thousand times more of a genuine oldskooler than you will ever be, she will always gain more respect for being a decent person
i dont undertstand why you were allowed back on this forum,it seems to me that everyone else on here is a decent person and that is what this lifestyle is all about, it doesnt matter what car you drive, if you are a decent person you will fit in

Man i love this forum...... where else could you get a guy that was born in the late 80s trying to argue that hes more oldschool than others

And...... there is a BIG BIG difference between being an oldschool car guy and being a guy that like old cars!!

I consider myself the latter, i love my old cars but i also love technology and the way things have improved for the automotive community. I try and upgrade all my cars with newer style running gear and undercarriage to make them safer and make them last longer. Same back in the day, people upgraded parts to make their cars go better, and handle better.

Doesnt matter if the car is driven daily, kept in a shed or trailered to a show. if you cant respect and appreciate the work people have put into there cars then you really have no place being at the show!!

Cheers

Mick

Dave,

I'm gona be frank here. I don't really like you or your opinions.

Now with that out of the way.. This thread was nothing to do with Kats cars or which ones shes bought or not or whatever. Its now turned to them being used as dailys.

To answer your question, i drove my car about an hour ago. I threw a big box of wet rocks and some other shit in the back seat and off i went.

I'm outta here. You guys can enjoy dressin up with your new cars, and i'll stick to my old ones.

Hey Mick..

Perhaps i'm just more Nostalgic than others Cause i don't want technology in my cars aha. I'd prefer Carbs over Injection.. and a whole bunch of cool lookin mechanical-ness over a computer any day.

nick, find a toilet, don't throw shit (and rocks??) in the back seat of your classic

dave brought the car owning issue up, because you abused me one day, because you said my 'daddy' bought all my cars, i told my dad that..he thought it was hilarious
girl=obviously handed everything from daddys pocket
i've worked since i was 11..worked and saved worked and saved until i bought my first car

at least i dont say to my mother (yes i have witnessed this people)

GIVE ME MY DAMN DINNER, MUMMM WHERE THE HELL IN MY DINNER, Oh your such a stupid bitch, dont tell me to eat my vegetables..SHUTUP and give me my steak.

nick..has never eaten a vegetable in his life (as told by his lovely mum who dosent deserve to be treated like that)

his dad mostly works on his cars, he is a retired man with a bad back.. whoooo makes him go out there day after day while you are on the computer???????...you nick YOU..

i was at your place and your dad was upset because you were going to bring home yet another car..to dump on there property..for him to do!
and when your dad goes, 'oh nick i don't think we need another project you haven't even finished one'
your reply was 'shutup, you don't listen to me, this is the greatest investment, mumm wheres my damn dinner'


me and dave aren't the only ones that you rub up the wrong way, i have 10 private messages saying 'get that nick guy off' and ive heard you have been causing trouble on other forums.
I urge the other people to back me up here

lovely fellow..

Thats fucking bullshit Kat and you know it. Firstly i was pissed as it was, and you started a fucking argument between me and Mum. Furthermore, that isn't fucking relevant to the forum at all so don't be a douche and bring that up.

Secondly, i don't make my Dad work on cars at all. He does it because it keeps him active. He IS NOT working on my shit, he is working on MY BROTHERS car.

Your entire last post is a fucking crock of shit.

Edit:

Just so people don't already think i'm enough of a fuckhead because of how you (Kat) and Dave portrey me as, i'm gona explain a little.

My Dad works on my BROTHERS car because hes 16 and doesn't know how to do it himself. My Dad did a fair bit, not all but a fair bit of work on my EK because i was working 6am -> 5pm FIVE days a week, all year.

Unlike you Kat who up until what a month ago when you decided to get a REAL job.. I've been working my ass off ALL FUCKING YEAR.

So before you get all sooky yourself because i'm now being an angry motherfucker, pull your head in and realise that when you have a FULL TIME JOB you don't always want to come home and then spend your only two days off working all day long on cars. Maybe if you know.. you had an easy job like making things out of cotton and glue and then selling them on Ebay.. but not when you spend your 10 hour days, five days a week welding and grinding inside a fucking Truck.



I'm out. But as for your little "Negative Nelly".. Don't try and act like you can piss off someone and then think its all cool. Thats definately not how the world works.

far out nick calm down
im going to have to get my dad back on here to turn the topic around
and dont reply if your going to be a negative nelly
grow up

I'm outta here.

I think the only way to stop dealing with nick's rubbish is to just ignore him
If you really want to have a good argument nick, you know where we live come and have a chat to me.

To regards to daily driving your olds cars,my whole point which seems to of been missed.
In 1969 i bought a brand new xw 351 ute with full factory gt pack it had everything on it that a gt came with but it was in a ute, and it cost me $3300 brand new. That ute today in good condition would easily bring $40,000-$50,000 why would you put a car like that at risk, as to leaving it in shopping centres and parked on the street, a few guys that i know that drive there rods everyday do the same journey drive to the same place park the car in the same place and basically they can see it all day long not many of us would have that luxury.
In 1980 i bought a ex jok 56' chev convertible for $4000 i owned it for nearly 3 years and in that time i did the roof and the trim because a motor bike ran up the back of me but i sold that car for $10,000 and as a member of the chev club of nsw the members couldn't believe that somebody would pay $10,000 for a chev! that car in 2007 changed hands for $110,000, when we owned it, we worried about where we left it, we have had people climb in it and sit in it to have their photo taken when we weren't there, twice we have had the tail light broken off of it, through experts trying to show where the fuel cap broken off it, and that was when the car was worth $10k could you imagine what the guy that paid $110,000 must think about parking it in kmart?
We have all got to realise that any old car is valuable, even hj kingswood's are worth what they were new.
So i really can't see how anybody can argue that if you can own an old car you should drive it everyday because unless you have got an unlimited bank account and don't care what happens to your car, you really are not going to drive it everyday, even daves 79' escort if it had a full restoration it would be quite a valuable little old car, check out the local papers and see how many escort ghia's are for sale. The rarer the car becomes the more valuable it becomes. And unfortunatly with the attitude of a great deal of people they don't give a damn about your car.
A friend of mine parked his 63' ss impala in a shopping centre as far away busy part as possible the car was a show winner in the paint department and when he got back to the car a women had placed 3 bags of groceries on the boot of his car, while she opened the boot of hers the only satisfaction he got out of it was to throw her 3 bags of grocerys as far as he could and then run over them.
If your lucky enough to own a car that is classed as a hot rod or a classic and everything in that car works perfectly it dosen't leak, the demister works perfectly the heater works its air conditioned and it drives as good as it did the day it came off the show room floor than your a lucky son of a gun, that could drive the car daily.
But should you? because use wears things out.

Well said Pete,

Your a gentleman and a scholar

Years ago i had a VK Calais (not exacty a classic but it was mint condition and modified), i remember coming out of a shopping center and seeing 2 guys sitting on the boot chatting to their mates that were sittin on the bonnet of the car behind. i still think that is the angriest i have ever been with anyone in my whole life...... and i made that very clear to them......then that car got written off by a chick who had had her license for 10 days, 2 weeks before i joined the army...... but thats a story for another time

Respect your own car but respect others cars even more!!

Cheers

Mick

Hi you all keep talking about "CARS" a $110'000 show CAR , a shit box hq whatever CAR ,a30 ish rod on commodore running gear it does not matter wot it is it's just a CAR it can be repainted or panel beat it dosn't matter it's just a CAR If you want an investment buy shares

long gone daddie wrote:Hi you all keep talking about "CARS" a $110'000 show CAR , a shit box hq whatever CAR ,a30 ish rod on commodore running gear it does not matter wot it is it's just a CAR it can be repainted or panel beat it dosn't matter it's just a CAR If you want an investment buy shares

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My Little Rockabilly wrote:you would all have to agree
nick has very different opinons..right

nick your a goose, every forum that i know of you prove this time and again, for f@#$k sake you drive a HJ when you have something at least 10 years older tell us what it's like driving an old car every day

yes i know you have older cars, but i meen whole cars not parts of cars